Mini-Ep 393: The #toiletbowl
Come for the prod recs, stay for the toilet talk! Listeners send Kate and Doree the best raincoat recommendation, a question about facial laser treatments, and thoughts on a thong that’s more than 20 years old.
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Transcript
Kate: Hello friends. Welcome to Forever35, a podcast about the things we do to take care of ourselves. I am Kate Spencer,
Doree: And I am Doree Shafrir.
Kate: And we are not experts.
Doree: We're not, we're two friends who like to talk a lot about serums,
Kate: And this is a mini episode where we hear from you, we share your comments and your thoughts, and we answer your questions to the best of our ability.
Doree: But please remember, we're not experts. We're podcast hosts. We always encourage you to seek support first and foremost, from a medical and or mental health professional as needed.
Kate: You kind of said that with a little bit of spice. I wonder if it's because you're all energized because of your bagel.
Doree: Yeah, so we were about to start recording and our mutual friend Danielle texted that she was outside with a bagel. She had very kindly picked up for me. She asked if I wanted to go get a bagel, and I was like, I don't have time, but if you want to drop one off for me, I wouldn't turn it down. And she was like, sure. Which is so nice. I was not expecting her to say yes. And I was like, I'll take a cinnamon raisin toasted with cream cheese. And she dropped it off and then Kate was like, just take 10 minutes, eat your bagel. And I was like, oh, well, ok, fine.
Kate: There's nothing worse than having a fresh bagel waiting for you and not eating it.
Doree: Yeah, that is, you know what? That's not. ok, Kate. You're not wrong. I thought about it and I was like, the tastiness ratio of the bagel goes down in proportion to the time you leave it sitting.
Kate: That's a very good point there. That is science
Doree: Especially. Well, especially because it was toasted.
Kate: Oh yeah, yeah. You got to get right in because,
Doree: So I was like, okay, Kate's. Right. So I ate the bagel and it was perfect. It was delicious. It hit the spot. I'd played tennis for an hour and a half this morning and I needed some sustenance.
Kate: Oh my gosh. As I just have to say, we will share on an upcoming episode a lot of listener recommendations for midday activity sustenance, but the snack recs have been rolling in.
Doree: I love a snack rec. Thank you for your snack racks. Did I say, did I tell everyone on this podcast that I made the muffins that you recommended?
Kate: No. I dunno if you did, but you sent me a photo, but that's because we're friends.
Doree: The muffins that Kate recommended are delicious. My son also loved them,
Kate: Which is a huge bonus,
Doree: which is a huge bonus. However,
Kate: Oh,
Doree: I believe they are a little bit too fibrous for a mid workout snack. They're a little heavy and fibrous, if you catch my drift.
Kate: Are you saying your bowels Were tap dancing, doing a little jig?
Doree: They were like, we're not sure about this. You should have consulted us before. Yeah, you put this muffin in your mouth and I was like,
Kate: they're very important.
Doree: I am so sorry. I will never do that again. Because they really do rule our lives, those bowels.
Kate: They are, you know what? They're orchestrating everything. They're like the Wizard of Oz behind the curtain.
Doree: Yes. So the moral of the story is, I love the muffins. I'm going to make more of them, but they are not the workout snack I was hoping for.
Kate: I think that's a really, really great advisory for anybody. Consider making them. I've never had that. I don't think I've had that experience, but maybe I should make them and then go for a jog and see what happens.
Doree: I mean, is this getting too, this might be getting too gross, but has anyone else out there? Sometimes when you do a really intense workout, especially if it's hot, you have to poop after sometimes you have diarrhea.
Kate: I don't think that's gross. People literally shit themselves while running marathons.
Doree: Yeah, I googled it and it is, I mean, it's partly because you get dehydrated. Yeah.
Kate: That's not gross. That's just a part of life. So
Doree: I feel like I'm sort of predisposed to that anyway. And then add in the kind of fibrous, fat filled, it's like deliberately fat filled because it's supposed to fuel you muffin.
Kate: Delicious,
Doree: Delicious muffin. And my stomach is like, maybe not maybe
Kate: Girl. No.
Doree: Girl. No,
Kate: Girl, No
Doree: Girl. No. Yeah,
Kate: But maybe an hour after workout when you're close to home, that might be when it hits the spot and then you hit the spot, if you know what I'm saying.
Doree: Which spot are you talking about?
Kate: The toilet. The toilet bowl.
Doree: Oh, I see, I see.
Kate: Wow.
Doree: This took a turn,
Kate: We've really gone off the rails here. Wow. we haven't even, And you know what? Now we're going to be like, Hey, if you haven't yet, please join our Patreon where we talk about all these kinds of things in our discord.
Doree: The discord is popping off.
Kate: Maybe we need a specific chat called the toilet bowl where we can put all these kind of body convos that are a little bit, might be considered gross, but are also really important to have.
Doree: I love that.
Kate: The toilet bowl.
Doree: Yes, the toilet bowl.
Kate: And that way it's different.
Doree: It It's different from butt care. It's related it, but it's different.
Kate: It is. It's the cousin of but care. Yeah. And I think we also, not everybody wants to have those conversations. I know, right? When we have talked about poop stuff before, some people are like, no.
Doree: Yeah. So maybe those people are fast forwarding right now, which is when are they going to stop talking about poop?
Kate: It's 70 minutes later. We're like, should we keep going? Yes.
Doree: All poop all the time.
Kate: Oh my gosh. Our new podcast, the Poop Cast, which again, friends, so if you haven't heard, we are, we've launched a Patreon and one thing we're really excited about is that we can kind of do one-off random podcasts for folks over in that Forever35 Patreon. So you never know the poop cast might become a reality.
Doree: Wow. Well, we have given the patrons power to vote.
Kate: Oh gosh. But what if it's a resounding no, this is democracy, then
Doree: It's a resounding no. Then it's fine.
Kate: That's fine. Okay, I can handle that.
Doree: I also just want to note that if you join before July 6th, you get two months free with an annual membership. You normally will get one month free with an annual membership, but you will get two months free if you join before July 6th. It's $5 a month at the sort of general level where you get all of the bonus content that we're going to be providing. And then at $10 a month, you also get a personal shout out on the regular episodes of the pod, which are still going to be available free and ad supported in your regular old feed. But you'll get a shout out at the $10 level. And then if you're like Doree and Kate, just take all my money.
Kate: Who is not like that at this point
Doree: Who is not like that? You can join at the 35, the Forever35 level, and you'll get a special video thank you from us.
Kate: I'm so excited to do those.
Doree: That is all at patreon.com/Forever35. Patreon.com/Forever35 patreon.com/forever35.
Kate: And look, as Doree said, we will be continuing weekly forever35 episodes here in the feed. So don't worry, we will be talking about poop over here.
Doree: Yeah, that's never going to stop. Also, just to clarify, the patron episodes are ad free.
Kate: That's right. Doree.
Doree: Yeah, they're ad free.
Kate: Oh, Well, we really went to a place I didn't know existed, and I had included in the document here in this little segment to talk about raincoats. Now, what other podcast goes from BMs as my grandmother Grammy Betty would say to raincoats
Doree: Only us.
Kate: Only US. Maybe Bill Simmons.
Doree: Maybe Bill Simmons.
Kate: I think I heard a similar segment on the Bill Simmons podcast.
Doree: Yes.
Kate: All right. Well, let's just share a couple raincoat wrecks before we take a break, shall we?
Doree: Let's do that.
Kate: Okay. Here's one. We got first time, long time, and I'm excited that I have something to contribute. I think this was an email. I'm responding to the listener who is looking for a raincoat. Recommendations from your Monday, April 17th episode. I live in Newfoundland parentheses Canada, and also I think I pronounced that wrong Newfoundland.
Doree: Newfoundland.
Kate: God, I sounded the most American. Okay. Continuing and sideways rain describes our climate Well, in saying this, I can't recommend my Marini raincoat enough. This local women-owned and designed size inclusive brand only has two products, a raincoat and a vest, which can be worn alone or under the jacket for extra warmth. This jacket is designed to be stylish while also being full length and a hundred percent waterproof. They say, I will attach screenshots from the website as not to be too lengthy for price transparency. The jacket is 325 Canadian dollars, which ends up being around 240 US dollars. The website ships to continental us. Hope this helps.
Doree: You know what? I love a company that does one thing well,
Kate: I do too. I think this is really cool.
Doree: Very cool. Thank you for sharing this and I'm intrigued
Kate: And thank you for, Thank you for gently and lovingly correcting my pronunciation of Newfoundland. Woo. Ooh. Yeah, I mean, it was rough.
Doree: Maybe I'm not pronouncing it correctly either, but I always thought it was Newfoundland.
Kate: I think it is Newfoundland, and I just want to say I'm over on their website and I am feeling this coat.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: Okay. Oh my God. It's a great coat and it comes in so many colors. It's chic. Ooh, woohoo. And it's long. If I were a Pacific Northwest person, I would be. And you know what I like too? We're talking size Xs to three xl.
Doree: We do like, I like it.
Kate: We do like that. I like it.
Doree: Oh, I do like this raincoat.
Kate: Yeah, right.
Doree: Yeah. It's cute.
Kate: Oh, and Doree. The vest is long. Okay. This is changing the world.
Doree: Oh, so it's really meant to be an inside liner kind of thing.
Kate: Yes. But I think we should all start wearing very long vests.
Doree: Oh Wow. Oh, I see. It's like a long, it's a knee length quilted vest.
Kate: This is cool.
Doree: This is intriguing.
Kate: Alright, right. Marini, I see you.
Doree: This is intriguing.
Kate: Oh, excuse me. And it's Marini, not Marini.
Doree: Marini marini marini marini
Kate: Marini.
Doree: What color would you get? What color raincoat would you get?
Kate: I love the kind of olive green color, but I also feel like just a traditional Paddington bear yellow raincoat,
Doree: You can never go wrong
Kate: Is kind of where I would go. It's like a statement, but it's also a classic.
Doree: Yeah, I hear you.
Kate: Yeah, I love it. Okay, well listen, we have another recommendation here.
Doree: All right. Should I read it?
Kate: Yes.
Doree: Hi, Kat and Dor I am listening to the episode in which you are discussing rain coats. And it reminded me that I was thinking about you when I was in Boston for the marathon. It was pouring rain, but the spectators were awesome and all came out to cheer. Boston really has some great people. Kate, I know you considered running it, and while I agree, it's a huge commitment, running the Boston Marathon was probably in my top five life events, but also about as hard as giving birth hashtag Boston Strong. Thanks so much for the pod.
Kate: Well, thanks. I guess this is raincoat adjacent,
Doree: But I also love that it's, I was thinking about this person is running the Boston marathon. The first one they said when I was in Boston for the marathon, I was like, oh, they just went to watch the marathon. Then it was like, oh no, they ran the marathon and they're thinking about us. Ok,
Kate: You sweet human. I truly don't know if this is ever anything I'm going to do, but if I could walk it, I would maybe do it. But there was a big controversy this year with the people who were running with slower or walking with slower times. They didn't have medals for them. And then the feeling of the race being shut down around you and you're still doing the marathon. Boston is a little bit prickly because it doesn't really honor people who, I mean it does, but it doesn't. It shuts down and it has kind of a time limit. So I dunno. Yeah, still thinking about it,
Doree: But there are nice people in Boston.
Kate: Oh my gosh. We love Boston so much as we think we've made clear.
Doree: All right, Kate, let's take a little breaky break.
Kate: Okie doke.
Doree: But before we do that, let's remind everyone that they can call or text us at (781) 591-0390, and they can email us at Forever35Podcast@Gmail. Our website Forever35podcast.com has links to everything we mentioned on the show. We are also on Instagram @Forever35podcast, and you can sign up for our newsletter, Forever35podcast.com/newsletter and shop our favorite products at shopmy.us/forever 35
Kate: Well be right back
Doree: BRB All right, we're back
Kate: So let's hear from some listeners about something much more G-rated, which is sunscreen.
Doree: Okay, let's do that.
Kate: I was happy to hear Doree talk about play sunscreen this morning. I just did a deep dive the other night looking for a lotion with spf, not a sunscreen. I want something I can put on daily so that if I'm going for a quick walk, take a coffee or something, like my skin is protected, but I don't want to slather sunscreen on my body for a 15 minute walk. I found Supergroups play as well as Enos Protect and Hydrate and EIN's daily lotion with SPF for cheaper options. Curious if you have tried either of these or other daily lotions with SPF? Yes. Doree. I feel like there was one that you and I both were into for a while.
Doree: Yes, it was Alba botanica,
Kate: Thats right. That's a heavy moisturizer, but it's nice.
Doree: I also want to note that Versed, I was going to say, this just sent us their new body lotion that has SPF 30 in it. I haven't tried it yet, but I'm excited to try it. But that could also be an option. And Versed has a good price point. It's $20. It's in between a super cheap drug drugstore and like a Sephoras. You can get it at Target.
Kate: And I haven't tried it yet, but they also very generously sent us a couple other products, one being their guards up daily mineral sunscreen, and I'm wearing it right now and I really like it. And I'm not a big mineral sunscreen fan. This stuff is really light and goes on very light. So I've been enjoying that for face. But if anyone has any other full bod recommendations, do, I don't know if you have any other that you use.
Doree: I Don't.
Kate: I'm a person who does put sunscreen on my body for a 15 minute walk, but I'm excited to try this lotion, so I'd be curious if other folks have a lotion. They like a sunscreen lotion.
Doree: Yeah, I'm wondering,
Kate: Wondering. Serum signal activated.
Doree: Serum Signal activated.
Kate: Okay, this is for you. You need to read this. Okay.
Doree: Hi Doree specifically, I just had to pause the episode, not the pod. I'm 13 seconds into a movie TV show series one episode one of a TV show called Sister Boniface. Is that how you say it? Mysteries
Kate: I said, said Sister Bony face in my head, but maybe it's Bonifaci.
Doree: I'm in Australia and watching it on a abc, which is the equivalent of the B bbc. I dunno what that is in the us but hoping that Doree can find this because I already know this will fulfill her cozy mystery requirements. The show has opened with an English country fairground and a wholesome family walking towards the tent to watch some lawn games be played. Yours and Green pastures, English, rolling Hills, scones, TK, and Jam.
Kate: Okay. Wow. This apparently, according to Wikipedia, is a spinoff of the Father Brown series, which I do know that my father and my British stepmother love.
Doree: Yep, yep, yep, yep.
Kate: It's a spinoff.
Doree: Yep, yep.
Kate: Okay.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: Enter it. I'm into it. Curious. All alright. Right. Okay. Okay. Here's a great text. Oh my gosh. Cat Andor watching the live show now and the long haul segment is so great, and I think that all a five minute makeup routines, you can invite listeners to call and write in with the products and their rotation that they've had the longest. I'll start, I still own my first ever thong l o l, and guess where I got it limited too! It's a bright sky blue color. It's kind of falling apart, but I can't bring myself to throw it away. Yes, I still wear it. Do I need to discuss this with my therapist? Maybe this thong is at least 20 years old, but it might be older. I am 35 years old.
Doree: Okay.
Kate: So this thong was purchased in the original aughts era where we were, people were walking around with the thongs purposely visible from their pants.
Doree: Right? Yes, I do recall.
Kate: What a time. Do you have anything like that? I'm trying to think. I have some really? Oh, I have my Dwight Evans Red Sox t-shirt from childhood that I still wear. I had still have that. That's 30 years old at least.
Doree: I do have a dress. I own a dress that I got in eighth grade.
Kate: Wow.
Doree: I have not tried it on in quite some time, but I still own it. And I actually own my, still have my prom dress.
Kate: Oh, you do? Oh, that's so special. Yeah, I think
Doree: It's pretty great.
Kate: These are things I have things that I still own but I don't wear because they don't fit anymore, but are sentimental or I would never be caught dead in them patchwork pants that I made myself that I used to wear to phish shows. But I have a dress that my mom bought me from Bloomingdale's that I cannot fit into anymore because I'm larger in size, but it's still very special to me. And I loved this dress.
Doree: Of course.
Kate: I fucking loved it. I wonder if I could extend it somehow. So I still have that saved, stuff like that. I don't have any thongs that are 20 years old, but I'm into it. Not opposed.
Doree: Yeah. I definitely don't have any underwear that is 20 years old. Alas,
Kate: You win listener, you win a prize.
Doree: All right,
Kate: Doree.
Doree: Yes, Kate,
Kate: Let's take another break.
Doree: Okay. Okay, let's
Kate: We'll be back in a sec.
Doree: All right, we are back and we have a text listening to episode 2 69 and just had to say two things. One, I've been thinking about lasers a lot. Feel like it may be time, but I'm not sure which one to try. I especially want to know which laser treatment I assume Anne Hathaway has been getting because her skin lately looks amazing and as she is of a certain age, I feel there's a laser involved. Two, Kate that mic Kate, get that microneedling. I'm 44 and get it about every four to six weeks. And I've loved the results. I know they may vary with each individual, but my skin has been really responding fantastically to it.
Kate: Ok. Challenge accepted.
Doree: Alright. Are you going to try it? You had,
Kate: I've tried microneedling once.
Doree: Oh, you did? Okay.
Kate: Yeah, I, I liked it. I just feel like the consistency and the cost required is just like I can't do it.
Doree: Right.
Kate: So I'm probably not like this is, I just want something that you do it once and then it's like one your skin's glowing.
Doree: Yeah.
Kate: But also I'm just, I'm fine. My skin's fine.
Doree: There's not that many things that require no maintenance.
Kate: No, it's, a lot of these things require three to six sessions and that is, it's both pricey and also just like, you know, got to keep going.
Doree: Totally.
Kate: Now you did a laser thing to your face and you really liked it.
Doree: I did. I did.
Kate: What was it called again?
Doree: I have gotten the rev light laser.
Kate: Rev Light laser, okay. And was that a one time thing?
Doree: I did it once last year and I did it again a couple months ago.
Kate: Okay. And would you recommend it?
Doree: Yes, but every laser does something differently. You can't just say go get a laser treatment, you have to figure out what you want it to do. For me, I wanted it to take off sunspots. I didn't need sort of full on skin resurfacing, you know what I mean?
Kate: Yeah, yeah, totally.
Doree: So I can recommend it for me and for my specific kind of skin. I have a friend actually who also goes to my same dermatologist who got this laser and it didn't work on her. She was one of, there's a small percentage of people that it makes it worse.
Kate: Oh boy.
Doree: And she had to get a different laser. So I cannot say this laser is going to be the best for everyone.
Kate: Yeah. That's the other thing. It's, I think these are all great tools, but you don't know going into it how your skin is going to handle it.
Doree: Exactly.
Kate: And so that always makes me a little like, eh.
Doree: Yeah. And everyone's skin is different, so yeah.
Kate: All right. Food for thought. Why you want to read this final text? Doree?
Doree: Yes. All right. Before the pandemic, my husband and I used to plan dates since COVID it has seemed harder to get back into the routine, help any good date ideas that won't break the bank.
Kate: I love this question. This is one of my favorite things to figure out with my husband. And he really loves, I'm trying to think of the love specific love language thing. It's not acts of service but it's planning activities. Experiences. Is that one of them?
Doree: Okay. Quality time.
Kate: Quality time. Thank you. Quality time. He loves quality time. Which I like too. But also I just love, if you bought me flowers every week, I'd be like, that's it. That's great. I'm done. So I think look to your community for what is either what might be a free activity or an activity that you're supporting. A local community organization. Museums are an amazing place to look. Botanical gardens, something as simple as going bowling or going to a local brewery or exploring a different neighborhood near where you live or a town that's a little bit of a drive. I think these things are all kind of fun and normally on the more financially affordable side. And a lot of times some museums will have a free night for residents. There's a lot of kind of deals to be discovered, I think, with a little digging.
Doree: Yes. I think that's good advice. I don't have any great suggestions.
Kate: That's interesting because I feel like you're a good activity date night planner,
Doree: But my husband is not. And also money is tight right now and going out together requires getting a babysitter and it's like, even if the activity is free, it's like minimum a hundred dollars.
Kate: This is one of, is such a hindrance I think. And my kids are at the age where we have, are able to leave them alone for a few hours and that has really been nice on the wallet.
Doree: Yeah,
Kate: That is, you make a really good point, Doree.
Doree: So we did go out together last week weekend because it was Matt's friend's 50th birthday party. But it, it's really hard to say let's go to a movie on Saturday night because it's like, by the time you pay for the tickets and get something to eat and it's like $250.
Kate: Yeah. With that sitter on top. Yeah. Thats crazy.
Doree: With Everything. Yeah, totally. So I mean, that might be a little high, but you know what I mean? It just doesn't seem worth it. So I think we have been staying home mostly.
Kate: Yeah, I hear you on that and I appreciate you kind of reminding us of that because it is, yeah, the childcare aspect of anything really. Just tacks on a price tag to all things.
Doree: Totally. Alright, well this has been delightful.
Kate: Oh my goodness. We really went all over the place.
Doree: We really did. And we will talk to you all soon. Bye.
Kate: Bye.